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Terry Day Spalding, Lincolnshire
Grace Roberts Queensland Australia
David (Lanky) Smith Melbourne Australia
Norman Hughes (taffy) Australia
Bud Jackson Canada.
Doreen Naylor Liverpool
John Glenn Hughes Pennsylvania
Kay Marie Williams Loresch America
Andrew Bohana Caernarfon
Keith Jones Caernarfon
Jim Price Liverpool
Peter Cox Boston Mass.
I'm trying to help my grandmother trace her family from Caernarfon and was wondering if anyone out there can help me.
family I'm looking for is Laura Owen nee Jones, married to possibly William Owen
and went on to have children Nellie Myfanwy Owen who has since passed away,
George Owen who has passed away, John Owen now living in Fishguard (we have
contact with him ) and Will Glynn Owen who was thought to have stayed living in
Caernarfon, Laura Owen brought up my grandmother who is Laura Jones born in
Anglesey on 24th July 1933 and her birth mother is known as Lizzie Jones thought
to be the sister of Laura Owen nee Jones, we are trying to trace anyone related
to this family or possibly Will Glynn Owen if still alive would be around 70ish,
please can anyone help however small the information may be, please let me know
Carolís Letter to Myra Williams
I have ancestors who lived in Carnarvon so have thoroughly enjoyed looking at the 'Memory Lane website'.
I thought I would write to you about the photo you have called 'Holiday Queen in 1922'.
My aunt Gwyneth Rees is the attendant to Gwenifer and holding the spindle strut to the left of the chair. Gwenifer was her best friend and she married Elwyn Rowlands, Gwyneth's cousin so is now one of the family.
Gwyneth has recently died aged 96 and I have had access to a lot of her old photos .
I do remember auntie Gwyn telling me about The 1st May Queen in Carnarvon and it is only now that I have come across the photos . I just wondered how you knew that Gwenifer became 'Roberts' please? It would be lovely if we had some links there.
Gwyneth's mother was Margaret Grace Jones who grew up with her sisters, brothers, mother and father who was William Jones the Tailor at 6 Castle Square. The Wilson-Dands I believe also had a shop on the square. When the tailor died his son William Henry Jones kept on the shop until he died in 1951. He had a sister Olwen Jones who never married and was a music teacher in Carnarvon. A lot of the family sang with the Carnarvon choir.
I do have more photos which I shall sort and send along anything with groups of people in case you might find relatives. It will take me a while to sort though.
I enjoyed reading your article and am pleased to be part of Carnarvon's heritage.
I have been looking at your pictures on the website. I am looking for a person
in Caernarfon and just by off chance you have one with the same surname. Her
name is Kathleen Griffiths and her birthday is 20/5/1944, her surname might have
changed by now. She used to live in Cae'r Saint back in 1970 -71. If you could
be of any help, helping me locate her I would be grateful. She would remember me
as Jane Griffiths.
I look forward to hearing from you.
I am trying to obtain a photograph of 7 South Penrallt as it would have been, on 11th December 1864, when and, where my Maternal Great Grandfather Robert Jones Prichard was born.
I have recently found that he grew up to be a master Mariner with Cunard shipping company and was awarded the Lloyd's Silver Medal for saving life at sea during the First World War.
His Ship SS DWINSK was torpedoed by a German submarine, everyone took to the lifeboats, and the one he was in charge of was adrift for ten days before they were picked up.
I really would appreciate your help, and if you could point me in the direction of someone that may know of his exploits.
I have only recently found out about his existence following the death of my dad/.
It does sound too good to lose in the passage of time.
Thanks for reading this and any help that you can give.
Caernarfononline received this E-Mail from Grace Roberts who lives
Australia. She was
well known as Gracie Gochan She would love to hear from her old
friends in Caernarfon and also from Cofis who now live in Queensland
or anywhere in Australia.
Her address is Ty-Ni 15 Glendon Court Kallangur Queensland 4503 Australia.
Tel No 07-3889-0720
Her E-Mail address is also in "Say Hello to an Old Friend" page
Wedi bod am oriau yn mynd drwy popeth am dref y Cofis, Cofi ydwyf fy hynnan wrth gwrs. Cefais fy magu yn y dyddiau cynnar fy mywyd yn 22 Hole - in -the Wall St;
Yr ydwyf yn byw yn Awstralia rwan er 1968, wedi trio dychwelyd yn ol i fyw yn yr Hen Wlad mwy nag unwaith .Rwyn ofni fy mod wedi bod Downunder yn rhy hir rwan.Awstralian ydwyf a'r damed o bapur ond rwyn ofni cymaint yr ydwyf yn caru y wlad hon , Cofi Dre Cymraeg y byddaf am byth.
Roeddwn yn gwylio y dydalen May Queen fel yr oeddan i yn ei galw y pryd hynny. Luned Roberts ac mi adnabais ei morwyn hi, Beryl Williams y Lleiod gynt.Ia dod a hen atgofion melys yn ol i mi.
Balch roeddwn yn y dyddiau yna o fod yn Gofi Dre.Mae llawer o honnom ni blant wedi mydo o'r hen gynefin rwan i wledydd tramor a ddim wedi gweld ein gilydd er blynyddoedd bellach.
Rhag ofn fod rhywyn allan yn fan yna ddim wedi gweithio allan bellach pwy yr ydwyf. Ia Gracie Gochan roeddant yn fy ngalw, dim gwobr am gesio paham.
Cefais innau y fraint o gerdded i fynny yr allt ym mhob tywydd am yr Ysgol Gennod yn Twthill ac wedyn am y County School.Edrych yn ol dyddiau goreu fy mywyd er mae dyddiau clawd roeddant.
Mam yn gweithio yn galed yn glanhau Eglwys Twthill, a rhan o Christ Church ac hefyd yn edrych a'r ol Feed my Lambs. Chafodd Mam ddim llawer o addysg i hen ysgol fach yn dop Love Lane aeth Mam, bywd caled yn te ond wedi'r cwbl mi fywiodd hyd nes oedd hi yn 92 oed. A belly ull of simple food and hard work never killed anyone fydda ei adroddiad hi pob amser.
Gwell i mi feddwl dod i ben rwan ond cyn gwneyd mae gennyf gais bychan i'r Cofis, oes yna rhywyn a digon o ddiddordeb mewn ysgrifenny ambell i lythr i mi yn yr Iaith Gyntaf (CYMRAEG) os gwelwch yn dda. Ac os oes yna Gofis o gwmpas Queensland neu rhiwle yn Awstralia anfonwch ebost i mi neu ganiad ffon a'r 07-3889-0720.A'r gyfer llythr fy nghyfeiriad yw. TY -NI 15 Glendon Court Kallangur Queensland 4503 Australia.
Cofion Annwyl at y Cofis i Gyd Hen ac Ifainc
Bendith Duw arnoch i Gyd
Melbourne - Australia.
I attended Syr Hugh Owen Grammar School from 1954 to 1958 and would love to get in touch with any of my old friends from that era.
I lived in Victoria Street and did the walk to school every day (withhundreds of other students). I have two sisters Christine and Cynthia.
Christine lives in Derby (UK), Cynthia lives in Buenos Aires (Argentina) and I live in Melbourne - Australia.
Hope to hear from someone!
David (Lanky) Smith.
From Norman Hughes [Taffy] Australia
This is my grandfather's army number,13011360. His name was Robert Hugh Parry. He was in the army medical pioneer corps-Royal Welsh Fusilier, 1904-1954. There is also a photo of him in Caernarfon Castle. A copy of this photograph would be greatly appreciated by my uncle who now lives in Sydney and is not very well. He's looking for anything about him. He use to play an instrument out side the courts in the old days. Please help as I have ran out of options.
Diolch yn fawr.
From Bud Jackson, Canada
I am descended from Robert Roberts
born Llanbeblig 1861. He came to
Canada circa 1909 and the remainder of the family appears to have
stayedin Wales. Unfortunately we here in Canada did not have contact with
of his siblings.
Can anybody help with photos of Liverpool evacuees who stayed in Caer Menai Hostel now the Caer Menai Boarding House. My husband was there for a few years. His name is George Naylor and was with the children from the Everton district of Liverpool.
We have been back but would love a photo of any sort.
One of the ladies who cared for the children was a nurse called Gracie. Does it ring any bells?
I just "happened" upon your Websites and felt compelled to write. My sister Anne, my wife Jinny, and I just returned from an absolutely fabulous one week holiday in North Wales. We spent much of the time exploring our Welsh
heritage and were quite successful discovering our roots.
We were able to locate our great great grandparents' gravemarker in Llanbeblig's Cemetery. The stone had been toppled and was overgrown with bramble, but we were thrilled with our discovery. In addition to Hugh and
Mary Hughes, who both died in 1887, the tombstone reflected the names of four of their children...Mary (1), Margaret, Mary (a second one), and Hugh.
A visit to the Archives in Caernarfon was equally productive, and we were able to find the baptism records of five more of Hugh and Mary's children, including our great grandfather, John Hughes, born in 1865.
During our entire visit, we were made to feel like "Family", and we are proud, indeed, to have Welsh Hughes blood coursing through our veins.
Everyone we met, from Reverend Donaldson at St. Mary's to the people in the Caernarfon shops were most kind and hospitable. I am in the process of writing up a more comprehensive biography of our Welsh ancestry, complete
with photos and maps, etc....however, you may find the following outline interesting:
Hugh Hughes was born in Llanfaes, Anglesey, in 1825. His wife, Mary Pritchard,was born in 1827 in nearby Llaniestyn. We visited both of those locations during our trip. We believe that Hugh and Mary were married in 1845 or 1846.
They had their first child, Hugh, in 1847. Census records reflect that he was also born in Llanfaes.
On October 6, 1947 a second child, Mary, was born. Margaret, their third child was born on January 19, 1850. It was during this time period that Hugh and Mary moved their family from Anglesey to Caernarfon.
Their daughter, Margaret, died on August 5, 1851 at the age of 11/2 and is buried in the grave at Llanbeblig. About one year later, on August 24, 1852 the Hughes' first daughter, Mary, died before her fifth birthday. She is
also interred in the family grave. Several months after the death of their daughter, Mary, the Hughes family had another daughter. Born on November 28, 1852 this little girl was also given the name "Mary". Tragically, she would
also die young, on June 3, 1867 at the age of fourteen. It is curious that her death date coincides with the horrible cholera outbreak that occurred in Caernarfon. It is also interesting to note that the records reflect that the
Hughes Family was residing on South Penrallt.... literally "ground zero" during that 1867 pestilence that took the lives of 75 Caernarfon residents.
Returning slightly chronologically, Hugh and Mary Hughes had a baby boy named Owen, born about 1855. Our family records indicate that he married a woman named Laura. Their union produces three children: Mary Hughes, Winifred Hughes Mills, and Laura Hughes. Owen and his family moved to Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania, probably in the late 1800's.William Hughes was born in Caernarfon in 1861. He was baptized in Llanbeblig on March 15, 1863. Family records indicate that he married Maria, and they had a daughter named Florie.
About 1862 Hugh and Mary had another daughter, Jane Gaynor Hughes, born in Caernarfon, and baptized with her brother, William, on March 15, 1863. Jane married Howell Hughes in Wales, and came to America where they settled in the coal region of Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania. They had four daughters: Mae Hughes Miller, Margaret Hughes Greenfield, Matilda Hughes, and Jenny Hughes. Jane died in about 1918 and is buried in Wilkes Barre.
John Hughes, was born on December 2, 1865 in Caernarfon, and was baptized on March 4, 1866. Baptism records in the Archives confirm that the Hughes family was still living on South Penrallt at the time. Census information
reveals that in 1881, John Hughes was an "Assistant Medical Student" living in the house of John Cookman on Castle Square in Bangor. His future wife, Elizabeth Pritchard from Llanberis, was also living in Bangor in 1881. She
was employed as "Undernurse domestic service" at the Friars School in Bangor.
On June 12, 1887 John Hughes and Elizabeth Pritchard were married, and they came to America on their "wedding tour", sailing out of Liverpool. Family lore claims that Elizabeth became so seasick on the voyage to New York, that
she vowed never to board another vessel. They settled in Wilkes Barre, where they had eleven children. It is interesting to note that John's father, Hugh Hughes, died on June 4, 1887...eight days before his son's wedding. The
mother, Mary Hughes died on September 8th of the same year.
Thomas Hughes was born in 1868 in Caernarfon, and was baptized in Llanbeblig on July 9, 1873. The parish records indicate the Hughes residence was no longer on South Penrallt, but now was on Pool Side. The 1881 Census confirms
an address of 27 Pool Side...a building that is still there...opposite the parking garage.
Mary Hughes, the third daughter named Mary, was born in 1872 in Caernarfon, and was baptized in Llanbeblig Parish on July 9, 1873, with her older brother, Thomas. Mary married Robert Edwards in Wales, and then came to
America, where they too settled in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania. Mary and Robert had seven children, the last of whom is Dorothy Edwards Mainwaring...and as of this writing is alive and well in Plains, Pennsylvania.
It appears that Hugh Hughes, the firstborn of Hugh and Mary Hughes, had married, and then, widowed, returned to live with his parents at 27 Pool Side. His occupation is listed as "Shoemaker" in the 1881 Census. That is the same occupation that is listed for his father, in both the census data and the baptism records. At the age of 67, Hugh died on June 16, 1914 and is interred with his parents and three younger sisters in the hallowed grounds of Llanbeblig Parish Church.
And so, while Hugh and Mary Hughes share their final resting place with four of their children, six of their offspring ventured off to America and honed productive lives for themselves and their families.
As a descendent of that family tree, I am most proud to carry the Hughes name, and know in my heart that one day; we shall all be reunited...that one day we shall blend our voices in the most harmonious hymn of all.
I shall remember and cherish the warm Welsh hospitality that made our holiday so very special...and would welcome a response to my "Heritage" ramblings above from any of you folks. I would also welcome a visit should any of you
find yourself on this side of the big pond.
With warmest regards,
John Glenn Hughes, Jr. residing in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, USA
son of John Glenn Hughes
grandson of John Harold Hughes
great grandson of John Hughes
great great grandson of Hugh and Mary Hughes last residing at 27 Pool Side in Caernarfon...and now permanently resting at Llanbeblig Parish Church.
You don't know me yet. I do plan to come over for a visit in the next few years. I've been digging up my ancestry in Wales, and am trying to trace back from my gr-gr grandfather who was born in Llanrug at Penyrhiw on 16 June, 1839 to William Williams and Ann (Evans) Williams. His first name was Robert. In the US he was known as Robert Wesley Williams, arriving with friends as a very young boy to the East coast and going into the Civil War as a cavalryman. He led a full life here, and the rest of the story I know. What I am wanting to find out is what happened to his parents in Wales. Were there other siblings? Did everyone else from Robert's family stay in Wales? I cannot find a death certificate for my GGGgrandfather William because the census of 1851 shows that the family had moved on and another family was living at Penyrhiw.
A possible clue is that the marriage
certificates research from the time show 2 possibilities:
At any rate, I wanted to say HI, and tell you I liked your art! And I hope to meet you when I finally get to come over in person to finish up my genealogy. I am an artist too! As is my Mother who has shown her works at banks and juried art shows around Seattle. If you are curious, I have just a few photoshop paintings on my personal website at: http://home1.gte.net/res03hv1/index.htm
Hope to talk to you again!
Kay Marie Williams Loresch
Upon conducting some research for my family tree, I came across this website. I must say that I think it's an excellent way to communicate any queries that anybody may have regarding anything connected with the town or relevance to family. So let's get straight to the point.
As I mentioned, I'm trying to gather as much information about my family surname. The surname, as you may well know, is pretty unusual. To compound matters further, there are similar spellings of the surname I.e Bohanna, Bohaana etc. People always ask me where did the surname originate. My answer is always vague. The best I can offer is that prehistoric man fooled around with a game of scrabble and the first six letters pulled out would be the surname.( how much points would that be worth?). Some say that the surname originates from a tinker family within the province of Southern Ireland. Yet, it's very hard to prove this. But get this, I think I have found the answer.
While conducting a search on the surname under normal listings, I came across a web site constructed by an Israeli doctor. Apparently, other than being a fairly accomplished doctor, he's also an amateur anthropologist. After much discussion with this man, he has confirmed to me that "Bohana" actually means " the son of Hosanna (Hosanna?)". He reinforced this by stating that the BO- in Bohana is actually an Israeli abbreviation for " Son, or a young person" and that the HANA refers to " Hosanna".
Now, we could argue, by following phonetic laws, that this person has simply broken down the word Bohana and simply translated it to his own configurations. Yet, this person then e-mailed me a document which shows how the name does have connections as far back as the thirteenth century AD. At this point, I was aghast. Had I been looking in the wrong places? For a second , I thought that the task would pan out quite handsomely. Then the wheels came off.
No sooner was I about to embark into Israeli archive records, I received an e-mail from America (Kansas to be precise). It seems there was a community of Bohana's (same surname) residing over there. This person in Kansas contacted me because he was doing exactly the same thing as what I was doing. We discussed the situation and came to a startling conclusion. The person in Kansas had contacted 352 same surname people around America and umpteen others world wide. Before I mentioned to him about the apparent definition of the surname he said " the funny thing is, forty nine per cent of those I contacted were or had known Jewish connection. Bingo.
There now had to be a definite Jewish connection or Israeli connection. Yet people who know the Bohana's in Caernarfon and elsewhere, will know that we do not go to holy temples and wear funny hats on our heads ( though my father does have a flat cap).
So, here we are. What I need is as much information as possible from local people regarding the Bohana surname, preferably from the 1930's back. Naturally, a lot of you will be giving the same info. That's fine. I'll sift through any info given. Remember, however vague the information, please send it. I could have mentioned other information I have , but it goes off on a tangent to the core of the research. Eventually, the finished article will be published on a web site, which is currently under construction.
Now for something totally different. Could you all please help me with a couple of queries I have about Caernarfon. While walking with my little boy the other day, I noticed that some landmarks were invisible. Naturally, it's been years since I walked through these areas. So here we go. Did they exist or was it my imagination.
1. Many years ago, I used to go down to the river by the brickworks and the Peblig factory. We know it as (caer afon) I'm not sure about the spelling of the first part. As you walk along the river towards Eryri Hospital, I could have sworn there were some old buildings (not in the same grounds) , right next to the hospital, with barbed windows. I was told that they used this building as a jail house or an asylum. Up to this day, I'm convinced they existed. Yesterday, I noticed that the entire field was overgrown, mainly with bramble. Can you help?
2. I went to Maesincla Primary School. At that time I lived in Maes Barcer which meant that I had to walk through "PLAS" as we still call it. Would I be right in saying that this walkway was not open until the early seventies? I recall going to school through Afon Bach, the other walkway by Cibyn. When was it first opened?
Many thanks for your time
When I was a child I remember the fire blaze at which was once a woollen complex which was situated near Gypsi Hill (now the fly over is located here) my grandmother at the time lived in Sunny Hill (opposite Twthill newsagents) I can recall my parent waking me up early one morning at about 1.30 am just to watch the fire.
Do you have any dates or details about this event as I think it would be a great article for your web page.
Keep up the good work.
Chairman Segontium Rovers
Dafydd Note: Does anyone have a story [& Photos] to say about this fire and was it Hugheston Roberts?
My Nan, Elizabeth Amelia Price (nee Godfrey) was born in Mill Lane, Feb 1896,married Harold, daughter of John Levi Godfrey and Elizabeth (nee Roberts). John was a journeyman tailor; he could not speak or hear. They moved to Liverpool where they are buried in Anfield Cemetery.
Johns father, also a JL Godfrey was married to Catherine (nee Thomas) had been born in Fenny Stratford, Northampton. They were in Bangor Street in the 1901 census with daughter Catherine. John senior had worked on the railways and died in 1922, I'm hoping someone will recognise the family!
Regards Jim Price